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Monday, August 06, 2012

The Future of Liberalism/Progressivism

The recent weeks have given us a frightening look at what the future of this nation will be like under liberal/progressivism. It is a world defined by prejudice and intolerance clothed in the guise of tolerance and progressive understanding.  In all comes from the strange reaction to the following quote of Dan Cathy COO of Chick-fil-A on the Ken Coleman show, as Ken Colman writes:
While discussing fatherhood with me, Dan Cathy expressed the following thoughts that have contributed to the media firestorm:

"I think we are inviting God's judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at him and say, 'We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage,'" Cathy said. "And I pray God's mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about."
In modern liberal/progressive political circles this rather traditional support of traditional marriage definition became a rallying cry of hate. Somehow this religious statement is hate filled. But of course there is nothing hateful about it. He did not condemn Homosexuals or say anything against them or indicate that he discriminates against them. No those things are read into his statements.
To get to these extreme views the liberal/progressives have worked hard to redefine the language. Not simply trying to make the word marriage fit same sexes but by making hate groups out of normally mainstream religious groups. Thus Since Cathy supports certain religious groups those groups become known as hate groups. For example here is a comment from a recent article on Spectrum magazine website:
Keith doesn't mention that this business owner contributes huge amounts to anti-gay groups that spew hatred, prejudice, and lies about gays and lesbians.
Of course to actually name these anti-gay groups would show that they are not in fact anti-gay groups but religious groups holding traditional religious beliefs. The liberal/progressives get here by…well you guessed it lying. People like the writer of the comment simply believe the lies and then repeat them. One of the chief liars in all of this is the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). The Chick-fil-A corporation gives to the Family Research Council. SPLC names David Barton as anti-gay as well. Of course if they wanted they could put most any traditional religious group as anti-gay. They could have even put President Obama as anti-gay as just over 3 years ago he also opposed gay marriage. But of course opposing gay marriage is not being anti-gay. There are even gays against gay marriage

But why is an individual’s freedom of speech when expressing traditional marriage and traditional religious values hate speech? The answer is that in the new future delivered by the liberal/progressive movement their views are the correct views and anything opposed to or not in alignment with their view has to be hate. They are unable to make the case so they rely upon false generalizations against those who don’t think like them.

This is because these political movements do not respect freedom they desire power and control and their chosen method is through the government.  “Liberal” no longer even mean classical liberalism, which is more akin to what we call libertarianism and Progressive does not mean moving forward toward more freedom and individual responsibility but Progressive in terms of more centralized governmental control and decreased freedom of thought. Propaganda is the method they chose to employ and propaganda is frequently composed of lies and misinformation.

This is a future that we cannot afford to allow. Fortunately Millions of Americans still see the foolishness of the liberal/progressive movement and as we saw last week they took much time out of their busy lives to show their support for the Chick-fil-A even when numerous political figures like the Mayor of Chicago the protégé of President Obama Rahm Emanuel declared that “They disrespect our fellow neighbors and residents. This would be a bad investment, since it would be empty.” It may well be that the Chicago way has no place for traditional Christians. 

This blog often takes on traditional Christianity but we must fight for their freedom of expression and belief; because their freedom is our freedom. The biggest disrespect comes from those who refuse to give others the respect of their beliefs and ideas.


Ryan said...

I think you have a misunderstanding of liberals and progressives in the American political arena. Even among us liberals, there was dissent regarding the mass reaction to the beliefs of Dan Cathy. Many liberals do recognize that freedom of speech means that Cathy and the FRC has as much right to speak their minds, no matter how erroneous, just as we do.

But the issue may not be just that Cathy was against gay marriage, but because the FRC and other similar organizations have said ignorant and intolerant things against gays and other outcasts of society.

Ron Corson said...

I will give you a day or two to be specific about the FRC I won't allow your post to stand with the inflammatory rhetoric of saying the they have said ignorant and intolerant things. I mean that is what you just did. So either be specific or your post will be deleted.

Ryan said...

“[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.”
— Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse,” 2002

" of the primary goals of the homosexual rights movement is to abolish all age of consent laws and to eventually recognize pedophiles as the 'prophets' of a new sexual order." —"Homosexual Behavior & Pedophilia," a FRC publication, July 1999,

“[T]he evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners.”
— Timothy Dailey, senior research fellow, “Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse,” 2002

"A little-reported fact is that homosexual and lesbian relationships are far more violent than are traditional married households."
-- Timothy Dailey, FRC publication, "Homosexual Parenting: Placing Children at Risk," 2002

Ryan said...

Look I just found your blog and I thought you would be an open and conversational person, considering you call yourself a progressive. There are some interesting things on your site, and you make some good points. But I am concerned about your attitude towards those with contrasting opinions and those you attack. For example, you call Shawn Boonstra a liar and then go to lengths to defend you're right.

Ron Corson said...

Ok, good we have specifics. These religious organizations are against what they perceive to be the homosexual agenda. That such organizations as NAMLA do exist and may have the same agenda may be subject to speculation. You may disagree with them but what they are saying is not hate speech. If it is then the Adventist church is a hate group because of their statements against the Roman Catholic church when Ellen White says that the pope is the anti-christ.(1888 edition of the Great Controversy) And the democrat party is a hate organization when they claim that Republicans what to throw Grandma off the cliff or Republicans want to kill people with dirty air and water. Hate speech and hate organizations are not hyperbole and political propaganda. Because someone disagrees with someones pet belief does not make it a hate organization and that is why these attacks on religious groups that actually follow their biblical beliefs about homosexuality is not a hate group. They are not the same as an intolerant hate group (Nazi, skinheads, Black Panthers etc). those who don't understand this place their prejudices above objectivity.

Ron Corson said...

For those that actually want to read in context at least one of the above quotes Ryan used you can see the article at:

Notice the Rightwatch site does not give a working link.