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Saturday, June 26, 2021

Olive Hemmings distortion of the beloved disciple

 

Adventist Today writer Olive Hemmings  Presents a rather peculiar view of the “beloved disciple” here is what she says in the excerpt of her article and presentation

 

Tradition

The idea that John the son of Zebedee is the beloved disciple is based on tradition. The internal Biblical evidence points elsewhere to the “beloved disciple”. The entire investigation about this disciple requires a hermeneutic of suspicion.

This is what we have to show that John is the “beloved disciple”.

In John 21: 20, ff., Peter turns and sees the disciple whom Jesus loves following them. The text says that it is this disciple who reclined next to Jesus and enquired about who would betray him. Peter sees him and continues to interrogate Jesus concerning this disciple. Then the author of the Fourth Gospel says: “This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and has written them, and we know that his testimony is true.” The assumption is that John wrote the Fourth Gospel, therefore John is the beloved disciple.

But in fact we do not know who wrote the Fourth Gospel. Even the commentary saying: “This is the disciple who is testifying to these things…” appears as a comment by the actual author about the ‘beloved disciple”. This suggests that the beloved disciple, an eye witness, was the source of the author’s work.

Dr.Olive Hemmings presentation at the zoom Sabbath School took the position That the beloved disciple was Mary Magdalene. Due to the use of some extra-Biblical works namely Gospel of Thomas, and the Gospel of Mary Magdalene. In order to use those books for her theory (the same theory that you can read about in Dan Brown’s the Da Vinci Code) Ms. Hemmings assumes that we can discount the tradition of the author of the book of John as actually being John. Which in fact may be the case and yet it would not negate the meaning that John was the beloved disciple in any way. So there is very little reason to entertain the idea of Mary Magdalene being the meaning of the beloved disciple in the book of John

 Contrary to Dr. Hemmings statement above, in fact, this is not the only thing we know to give us an idea of who the beloved disciple was. There are 6 references in the book of John:

1.     John 13:23: “One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.”

2.     John 19:26: “When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, ‘Woman, here is your son.’”

3.     John 20:2: “So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, ‘They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!’”

4.     John 21:7: “Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, ‘It is the Lord!’”

5.     John 20:20: “Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them.”

In addition to this, John 21:24 describes the Beloved Disciple as the “disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down.” 

https://zondervanacademic.com/blog/who-wrote-the-gospel-of-john

By the internal evidence of the book of John we can rule out the beloved disciple as being Mary Magdalene Using John 20: 1-4:

20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance. 2 So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!” 3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first.

Thus Mary Magdalene could not be the person referred to in the book of John as the beloved because she in fact speaks to that person. Then after Mary Magdalene having run from the tomb, if she was the beloved she would have had to run back to the tomb beating Peter.

Let’s look at Dr. Olive Hemmings Biography

Olive Hemmings has been teaching in Seventh-day Adventist higher education since 1982. She began teaching at her Alma Mater West Indies College (now Northern Caribbean University) in 1982, one year before graduating, and continued teaching there until 1998, when she moved to California to further her studies. She earned the M.A. in New Testament and Biblical languages from the SDA Theological Seminary at Andrews University in 1989, and the Ph. D. in Theology, Ethics, and Culture from Claremont Graduate University in 2004. She taught at Northern Caribbean University for 15 years, and has been teaching at Washington Adventist University for the past eleven years in the areas of New Testament Bible and Greek, World Religions, Social, Biblical, and Theological Ethics, and Dogmatic Theology both in graduate and undergraduate programs.

It might be interesting to know how Dr. Hemmings arrived at this decision to support the idea that Mary Magdalene was the beloved disciple.  Perhaps if a person watches the Adventist Today YouTube presentation when it posts they can see. Check for it in the future.

 On a related note, when people view the presentation they will see that Dr. Hemmings trys to discount the notion that the gospel of Thomas is a gnostic work. But as you can see in my opening quote of Dr. Hemmings she says: 

"The entire investigation about this disciple requires a hermeneutic of suspicion."

Here is the definition of hermeneutic of suspicion which to me sounds like gnostic reasoning. 

"The hermeneutics of suspicion is a style of literary interpretation in which texts are read with skepticism in order to expose their purported repressed or hidden meanings.[1]

This mode of interpretation, invented by Paul Ricoeur, who was inspired by his interpretation of the works of what he called the three "masters of suspicion"[2]Karl MarxSigmund Freud, and Friedrich Nietzsche— Ricoeur's term "school of suspicion" (Frenchécole du soupçon) refers to his association of his theory with the writings of the three, who themselves never used this term.[3] This school is defined by a belief that the straight-forward appearances of texts are deceptive and that explicit content hide deeper meanings or implications.[1][4] 

 In reference to the last post I made this may reflect what is going on with Dr. Hemmings. 

The Gospel of Thomas has become popular in recent decades in relation to a populist Christian movement known as Liberation Theology, which also teaches self-reflection of each person as the Christ within you. Gustavo Gutierrez coined the term in his 1971 CE book, A Theology of Liberation. He criticized the Catholic Church in Latin America for corrupting the original teachings of Jesus.  Jesus. https://brewminate.com/secret-knowledge-a-history-of-christian-gnosticism-in-the-ancient-world/


 

Sunday, June 20, 2021

Alex Bryan pseudo-intellectual nonsense

 Alex Bryan Posted on Facebook:

I have come to the position that Christians must let Jesus go.

Why? The only possible solution to our insurmountable global, political problems must include two elements. First, the solution must truly include every individual human being: if any one person or group is left out there cannot be success. Second, the solution must pull every one together. Individualistic libertarianism for all won’t get it done – “live and let live” is a philosophy that eventually kills community.

The solution, therefore, must “hold ALL things TOGETHER.”

Paul’s Colossians 1:15-20 proffer to us: Jesus does this.

Religious sectarianism fails this test. Secular humanism fails this test. Globalism, nationalism, conservatism, liberalism– they all prove inadequate.

Only Jesus will do. But for “Jesus” to work Christians must let him go. We cannot claim him as ours and not yours. We cannot proclaim him as the private possession of Christendom. We cannot use him for our own tribalistic dreams.

He’s always asked for this – “I have to leave now for I have other towns” … “Remember, I have other sheepfolds” … “Mary, you can’t hold on to me” … “God in a Single Human Body must leave so the Spirit of God can blow all over the earth.”

The monotheistic message of Jesus – there is only One God, and all are God’s children, together. This message transcends all religion, all culture, all party, all tribe, all nations.

Transcendence.

And so we have to let Jesus go, and at the very same time, remain.

https://www.facebook.com/alex.bryan.393/posts/10158998077086072?


Oh, how I hate this kind of pseudo-intellectual nonsense!  First, how does he define letting Jesus go?  He does not yet that is his opening and closing line! Second, he says Christians cannot claim Jesus as ours or yours. Yet very clearly that is the Biblical and Christian tradition. "John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ” My Father AND your Father – my God and your God." This pastor even uses the first part of that text in his message. You can't ignore the whole Bible to follow foolish pastors! 

"Deuteronomy 6:5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might."  Third You must be able to deal with reality. Saying that some religion, say, Islam does not hold Jesus as their God is not telling them Jesus is "not yours". All in all this message is totally unchristian. Not to mention it does not seem to understand transcendence at all if he thinks that it is something that comes from God that we can stop! The whole thing is based upon his false premise: " We cannot proclaim him as the private possession of Christendom. We cannot use him for our own tribalistic dreams." Well I guess that is true for the very few who do it, I can't think of any but I suppose there are some that don't understand Christianity enough to think that. If that pastor knows those types of people he needs to help them. Though after this I would question his ability to do that. By the way when he says: "if any one person or group is left out there cannot be success." That is liberation theology. It is also not Christian.

Update:
About 2 hours after I posted my response on Alex Bryan's Facebook it was deleted. This is typical of the unthinking left, They are unable to logically deal with their own postitions. So they ignore and remove anything that is critical and bask in the approval of their unthinking minions.  But he did write this in one of his comments. It gives you a good idea that he does not really even know what a conservative is: "5. Conservative "God, Guns, and Gays" fundamentalism fails Jesus. And so does utopian-dream, John Lennon "imagine" liberalism." 

It Does make a person wonder if he has any knowledge about conservatives at all.