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Friday, August 11, 2006

It's Not A Jesuit Plot

Another one of the myths that swirl about the Adventist media and most likely many of the classes this Sabbath is the idea that the view that Daniel 9:27 is speaking about Christ rather then the prince who destroys the city of the previous verse.

(Dan 9:26-27 NIV) After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."

Some like Doug Batchelor have accepted or created the myth of Jesuit involvement with the reading of these verses. Even though the language is more in line with those who see the anti-Christ in these verses.

Batchelor says: in his lesson on Daniel 9 at about 44 minutes into the presentation:

“He (The Messiah) will confirm the covenant with many for one week: but in the middle of the week he’ll bring and end to sacrifice, when he died on the cross what happened? The veil was ripped he brought an end to the sacrificial system this isn’t the anti-Christ this is Jesus…it blows my mind when I hear Evangelicals say this is the anti-Christ that is a Jesuit teaching. That has found its way into the Protestants churches it just…that’s an abomination of desolation.”

If Doug Batchelor would bother to look into the history of Christianity he would find that this view that verse 27 is referring to the anti-Christ preceded the Roman Catholic Church and of course the Jesuits who were not formed until the 1500’s.

We can see the idea that this is about the anti-Christ at the time of the Early Church Fathers. I am always amazed at how our Adventist Evangelists are so theologically and historically inept. Here are some quotes from the Early Church Fathers. Most of these are likely available on the internet but I am not going to give links since I am using my own copy of their writings. To give a true feel for the subject I have included much of the surrounding writings, I will however highlight key areas for those who scan this post. The idea that Antiochus was the one who desecrated the temple is also present in the Early Church Fathers. Those who pretend that it was a Roman Catholic teaching to deflect from the reformation view of the Catholic church as the anti-Christ often ignore that it has a history that goes all the way back to the Early Church Fathers.

Early church Fathers Ante-Nicene Vol. 1 page 1147 [c. 130–202]

Vol. I - The Apostolic Fathers with Justin Martyr and Irenaeus

4. The Lord also spoke as follows to those who did not believe in Him: "I have come in my Father's name, and ye have not received Me: when another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive," calling Antichrist "the other," because he is alienated from the Lord. This is also the unjust judge, whom the Lord mentioned as one "who feared not God, neither regarded man," to whom the widow fled in her forgetfulness of God, -that is, the earthly Jerusalem, - to be avenged of her adversary. Which also he shall do in the time of his kingdom: he shall remove his kingdom into that [city], and shall sit in the temple of God, leading astray those who worship him, as if he were Christ. To this purpose Daniel says again:
"And he shall desolate the holy place; and sin has been given for a sacrifice, and righteousness been cast away in the earth, and he has been active (fecit), and gone on prosperously." And the angel Gabriel, when explaining his vision, states with regard to this person: "And towards the
end of their kingdom a king of a most fierce countenance shall arise, one understanding [dark] questions, and exceedingly powerful, full of wonders; and he shall corrupt, direct, influence (faciet), and put strong men down, the holy people likewise; and his yoke shall be directed as a wreath [roundtheir neck]; deceit shall be in his hand, and he shall be lifted up in his heart:
he shall also ruin many by deceit, and lead many to perdition, bruising them in his hand like eggs." And then he points out the time that his tyranny shall last, during which the saints shall be put to flight, they who offer a pure sacrifice unto God: "And in the midst of the week," he says, "the sacrifice and the libation shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation [shall be brought] into the temple: even unto the consummation of the time shall the desolation be complete." Now three years and six months constitute the half-week.

5. From all these passages are revealed to us, not merely the particulars of the apostasy, and [the doings] of him who concentrates in himself every satanic error, but also, that there is one and the same God the Father, who was declared by the prophets, but made manifest by Christ. For if what Daniel prophesied concerning the end has been confirmed by the Lord,when He said, "When ye shall see the abomination of desolation, whichhas been spoken of by Daniel the prophet" (and the angel Gabriel gave the interpretation of the visions to Daniel, and he is the archangel of the Creator (Demiurgi), who also proclaimed to Mary the visible coining and
the incarnation of Christ), then one and the same God is most manifestlypointed out, who sent the prophets, and made promise of the Son, andcalled us into His knowledge.


Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 2 page 663 [born about the middle of the 2nd century, and died between 211 and 216]

From the captivity at Babylon, which took place in the time of Jeremiah the prophet, was fulfilled what was spoken by Daniel the prophet as follows: "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to seal sins, and to wipe out and make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal the vision and the prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies. Know therefore, and understand, that from the going forth of the word commanding an answer to be given, and Jerusalem to be built, to Christ the Prince, are seven weeks and sixty-two weeks; and the street shall be again built, and the wall; and the times shall be expended. And after the sixty-two weeks the anointing shall be overthrown, and judgment shall not be in him; and he shall destroy the city and the sanctuary along with the coming Prince. And they shall be destroyed in a flood, and to the end of the war shall be cut off by: desolations. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the middle of the week the sacrifice and oblation shall be taken away; and in the holy place shall be the abomination of desolations, and until the consummation of time shall the consummation be assigned for desolation. And in the midst of the week shall he make the incense of sacrifice cease, and of the wing of destruction, even till the consummation, like the destruction of the oblation." That the temple accordingly was l built in seven weeks, is evident; for it is written in Esdras. And thus Christ became King of the Jews, reigning in Jerusalem in the fulfillment of the seven weeks. And in the sixty and two weeks the whole of Judaea was quiet, and without wars. And Christ our Lord, "the Holy of Holies," having come and fulfilled the vision and the prophecy, was anointed in His flesh by the Holy Spirit of His Father. In those "sixty and two weeks," as the prophet said, and "in the one week," was He Lord. The half of the week Nero held sway, and in the holy city Jerusalem placed the abomination; and in the half of the week he was taken away, and Otho, and Galba, and Vitellius. And Vespasian rose to the supreme power, and destroyed Jerusalem, and desolated the holy place. And that such are the facts of the case, is clear to him that is able to understand, as the prophet said.

[Later he writes about the 2300 days page 674]

We have still to add to our chronology the following, - I mean the days which Daniel indicates from the desolation of Jerusalem, the seven years and seven months of the reign of Vespasian. For the two years are added to the seventeen months and eighteen days of Otho, and Galba, and Vitellius; and the result is three years and six months, which is "the half of the week," as Daniel the prophet said. For he said that there were two thousand three hundred days from the time that the abomination of Nero stood in the holy city, till its destruction. For thus the declaration, which is subjoined, shows: "How long shall be the vision, the sacrifice taken away, the abomination of desolation, which is given, and the power and the holy place shall be trodden under foot? And he said to him, Till the evening and morning, two thousand three hundred days, and the holy place shall be taken away."
These two thousand three hundred days, then, make six years four months, during the half of which Nero held sway, and it was half a week; and for a half, Vespasian with Otho, Galba, and Vitellius reigned. And on this account Daniel says, "Blessed is he that cometh to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days." For up to these days was war, and after them it ceased. And this number is demonstrated from a subsequent chapter, which is as follows: "And from the time of the change of continuation, and of the giving of the abomination of desolation, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and thirty-five days."
Flavius Josephus the Jew, who composed the history of the Jews, computing the periods, says that from Moses to David were five hundred and eighty-five years; from David to the second year of Vespasian, a thousand one hundred and seventy-nine; then from that to the tenth year of Antoninus, seventy-seven. So that from Moses to the tenth year of Antoninus there are, in all, two thousand one hundred and thirty-three years.


Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 4 page 1224 [185-254 AD]

...The prophecy also regarding Antichrist is stated in the book of Daniel, ...What is stated by Paul in the words quoted from him, where he says, "so that he sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God," is in Daniel referred to in the following fashion: "And on the temple shall be the abomination of desolations, and at the end of the time an end shall be put to the desolation." So many, out of a greater number of passages, have I thought it right to adduce, that the hearer may understand in some slight degree the meaning of holy Scripture, when it gives us information concerning the devil and Antichrist; and being satisfied with what we have quoted for this purpose, let us look at another of the charges of Celsus, and reply to it as we best may.

HIPPOLYTUS THE REFUTATION OF ALL HERESIES II The interpretation by Hippolytus, (bishop) of Rome, of the visions of Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar, taken in conjunction.
Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol. 5 Page 377 [born in the second half of the 2nd century]

21. For this reason, then, the angel says to Daniel, "Seal the words, for the vision is until the end of the time." But to Christ it was not said "seal," but "loose" the things bound of old; in order that, by His grace, we might know the will of the Father, and believe upon Him whom He has sent for the salvation of men, Jesus our Lord. He says, therefore, "They shall return, and the street shall be built, and the wall;" which in reality took place. For the people returned and built the city, and the temple, and the wall round about. Then he says: "After threescore and two weeks the times will be fulfilled, and one week will make a covenant with many; and in the midst (half) of the week sacrifice and oblation will be removed, and in the temple will be the abomination of desolations."

22. For when the threescore and two weeks are fulfilled, and Christ is come, and the Gospel is preached in every place, the times being then accomplished, there will remain only one week, the last, in which Elias will appear, and Enoch, and in the midst of it the abomination of desolation will be manifested, viz., Antichrist, announcing desolation to the world. And when he comes, the sacrifice and oblation will be removed, which now are offered to God in every place by the nations. These things being thus recounted, the prophet again describes another vision to us. For he had no other care save to be accurately instructed in all things that are to be, and
to prove himself an instructor in such.
Page 382
39. Thus, then, does the prophet set forth these things concerning the Antichrist, who shall be shameless, a war-maker, and despot, who, exalting himself above all kings and above every God, shall build the city of Jerusalem, and restore the sanctuary. Him the impious will worship as God, and will bend to him the knee, thinking him to be the Christ. He shall cut off the two witnesses and forerunners of Christ, who proclaim His glorious kingdom from heaven, as it is said: "And I will give (power) unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." As also it was announced to Daniel:

"And one week shall confirm a covenant with many; and in the midst of the week it shall be that the sacrifice and oblation shall be removed" - that the one week might be shown to be divided into two. The two witnesses, then, shall preach three years and a half; and Antichrist shall make war upon the saints during the test of the week, and desolate the world, that what is written may be fulfilled: "And they shall make the abomination of desolation for a thousand two hundred and ninety days."
Page 398

11. "The abomination of desolation shall be given (set up)." Daniel speaks, therefore, of two abominations: the one of destruction, which Antiochus set up in its appointed time, and which bears a relation to that of desolation, and the other universal, when Antichrist shall come. For, as Daniel says, he too shall be set up for the destruction of many.


Alexander said...

Props for calling out Batchelor on his historical sloppiness. You should forward your post to their communication person. As a leader in the church he has a responsiblity to speak truth, not error. And correct his hermeneautical mistakes since hundreds of Sevies quote him. What does he run, again? Oh, yeah Amazing Facts. They should be facts first.

spiritual jew said...

The truth lies in the text of Dan chapter 9 in connection with its chiastic structure, not debatable history.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:
reference to Messiah-*
"... and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined..."

note*The Hebrew style of writing leaves no doubt as to the fact that the "he" who "makes" "desolate" is none other than a reference back to the beginning of the subject--that is, Rome desolating the physical Temple structure.

Next a spotlight is refocused on the Messiah (the Chiasm goes back to the beginning to enlarge detail).

27And he ( the Messiah again)shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease..

The rest of the text says that due to an overspreading of "abominations", the temple would be desolated--meaning that because of the Jewish rejection of the Messiah, and their continuing sacrifices within the Temple of animals; the very thing that the sacrifice of Christ caused to "cease", the physical Jewish Temple would be desolated by the Roman Army, and that has already occured.

Jesuit Futurism invented the "future antichrist" story by reinterpreting key verses in Dan 9, and applying those texts in connection with the Saviour--> to "A Future Antichrist."

There is also a wealth of Historical quotes of practically EVERY Protestant Forefather regarding the fact that they historically agreed that the Papacy with its Principles of Popery ("man of sin")fulfilled the prophecies concerning Antichrist,beast of Rev 13, and Mystical Babylon (Rev 17).

The Roman Catholic Church launched its Counter-Refomation campaign with the object in mind to nuetralize the Protestant understanding that yes, the office of the Papacy was and IS indeed the Antichristian power (spiritual Rome). The Jesuit Order was especially created to bring down Protestantism and its Principles of freedom of religion.

Therefore, for years it has been working very much behind the scenes to this nefarious end.

It has circulated into Modern Evangelicalism, the concept that it has nothing to do whatsoever with those prophecies conerning Antichrist.

I believe the Bible, however exposes the fact that it certainly has and is continuing on to employ the same deceptions of infiltration in order to wage its clandestine war against the principles of Protestantism (freedom and democracy)until it is exposed a very short time before the physical return of Jesus Christ...