Recently I received a comment
on this blog from Adventist Today Editor J. David Newman, in part
he wrote:
“You write well
although you and I will never come to any sort of agreement because
your logic is beyond me just as my logic is beyond you. It seems that
we are speaking two different languages.”
A couple years ago I had an extended
dialog with David Newman on the subject of death before sin and he
could not fathom anything other then taking the Genesis chapters 1
and 2 as literal method of interpretation. You know the perfect world
with talking snakes thing, with trees given names like the “tree of
life” and the “tree of knowledge of good and evil”.
His claim was that we were talking past
each other, basically what he is saying in the above comment. I would
have liked to have posted those conversations but he did not want me
to. I think the reason he did not want them posted is not because we
were speaking a different language but because we were speaking with
different presuppositions and facts. But his facts were mostly
beliefs and when you compare beliefs with actual factual information
beliefs don't seem so compelling.
Not long ago there was a news program
and Rachel Maddow was making a statement about the supposed wage gap
between men and women. To this another panelist Alex Castellanos
stepped in to explain some of the reasons for wage differences. Her
response was: “Wait wait wait, don't tell me the reasons do women
make less then men...” If one rejects reasons to focus upon
statistics do the statistics really matter anymore? No in fact they
become excuses. We see a lot of this type of miscommunication in the
world of politics, but it is also just as frequent in the world of
religion.
It is most frequent with the
fundamentalist mindset that claims that the Bible is the word
of God, so if God wrote the story of Genesis through the hand of
some person, God was telling the literal, historical and
scientifically accurate truth. That presupposition precludes any
logical or reasoned variance with their belief. Their belief is not
even accurate as the Bible does not claim to be the word of God
(click
this link for more) in the first place but that does not really
matter as their belief is the primary thing. When people refuse to
use logic then logic has no effect on them. When people want you to
ignore logic then their arguments have no effect on the person who
wants to be logical; who wants to have well thought out reasons for
their positions. Thus Newman's statement is somewhat true. “...I
will never come to any sort of agreement because your logic is beyond
me just as my logic is beyond you.” The problem is that we
could communicate if he was using logic. That is the reason for the
existence of what we call logic. That way people can get together and
discuss and work out ideas and effectively communicate.
What appears to be happening in
Adventism today is that logic has been cast aside. When we lose that
we have nothing. We have no reason to exist and we have no reasonable
way to fulfill a mission for God and no way to fulfill that mission
because we have lost the key elements to communicate. For Adventism
to progress it must begin to think critically once again. (see
the following quote on Critical Thinking):
- understand the logical connections between ideas
- identify, construct and evaluate arguments
- detect inconsistencies and common mistakes in reasoning
- solve problems systematically
- identify the relevance and importance of ideas
- reflect on the justification of one's
own beliefs and values
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