tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post115881543694310673..comments2024-01-30T03:40:00.558-08:00Comments on Adventist Media Response and Conversation: Is God On Trial?Ron Corsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02160607058464028162noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-25476579028245823752017-08-25T14:42:33.516-07:002017-08-25T14:42:33.516-07:00What’s up with not using EGW quotes? She was a pr...What’s up with not using EGW quotes? She was a prophet and given many visions. The instructions given her are a GIFT to the church. There is no reason at all to be ashamed of this wonderful gift and intimidated to call to attention the instructions and guidance given to the SDA church and the clarification her writings provide in understanding Scripture. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02988409994224681623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-63808821472737815852010-05-11T13:03:29.782-07:002010-05-11T13:03:29.782-07:00I find it very interesting indeed that "anony...I find it very interesting indeed that "anonymous" believes there is no biblical evidence for some of the things he has against Herb's article. <br /><br />You do not believe the ultimate purpose of the Gospel is to prepare people to be trusted with eternal life and believe there is nothing in the bible to even suggest such a thing. <br /><br />Matthew 19:16 Jesus is asked how do I get eternal life… his response keep the commandments<br />Matthew 19:29- Jesus further says that those you sacrifice in this life will receive eternal life<br />Matthew 25 pictures sheep and goats with the sheep getting the ticket punched because of their attitude of service<br />Luke 10:25 has a lawyer asking him the same question as in Matthew 19 his response "you tell me" lawyer responded with love God with everything you are and love your neighbor as yourself. (loving your neighbor as yourself can be qualified in the Matthew 25 sheep and Matthew 19:29 sacrificial people John 15:13 also same spirit)<br />Jesus says that is correct do this and you will live (contextually eternally) John 3:15-16 also tells us believing (having faith) in the sacrifice of christ will produce eternal life.<br />Mark 1:15 talks about repenting and believing in the gospel, which is the good news of God saving man by faith in a nut shell. <br />Now by accepting that you live a life of Galatians 2:20; if you put it all together its clear from the bible the gospel prepares you to live eternally with God! <br />Now your second point was Satan never said we (as men) cannot keep the commandments or obey God it is found nowhere in scripture and therefore we get this idea from Ellen White. Genesis 3 at a minimum suggests you cannot trust God’s word/instruct. In tempting Jesus in the wilderness in Matthew 4 you get the idea that Satan is trying to distort God’s word again to get Jesus to sin. In Job Satan suggests that Job only follows God because it’s easy to, he won’t trust you if you etc. You get the point I am sure. Perhaps there is nothing in the bible that says “satan said “it is impossible for man to obey God’s Commandments” but Satan does in-fact state Man cannot trust God at his word, his word is instruction and if his instructions cannot be trusted then why obey them. It is pretty plain for me to see that Satan has an agenda to dispute God’s command in Eden on the basis of “living by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God” is tainted as God cannot be trusted and according to Paul all have sinned and fallen short… so what can we conclude? Man cannot as Satan would get you to believe keep God’s law because you cannot trust him enough to obey him and this as understood by Paul means EVERYONE SINS. But the remedy for this is again Galatians 2:20! THE GOSPEL; No Ellen White used for my belief Boss just the Word of GodDavid@howtostudythebiblehttp://www.ellenwhitestudybible.com/bible-study-methodsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-14802688130699340472009-06-09T21:55:00.951-07:002009-06-09T21:55:00.951-07:00If you read the verse you quote you will see it ha...If you read the verse you quote you will see it has nothing to do with trying the Lord but acknowledging that the Lord is good and can be trusted.<br /><br />(Psa 34:7 NIV) The angel of the LORD encamps around those who fear him, and he delivers them.<br /><br />(Psa 34:8 NIV) Taste and see that the LORD is good; blessed is the man who takes refuge in him.<br /><br />(Psa 34:9 NIV) Fear the LORD, you his saints, for those who fear him lack nothing.Ron Corsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02160607058464028162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-51609462718666102982009-06-09T21:08:50.782-07:002009-06-09T21:08:50.782-07:00God has put Himself on trial. Taste and see that ...God has put Himself on trial. Taste and see that the Lord is good. Our lives testify to the words of God. To say that “God is on trial” is one thing. It is twisted thinking to portray this as superior people judging an inferior God. Your C.S Lewis quote is not addressing God’s challenge to “try Me”.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-63117935718826928012009-05-28T08:30:07.278-07:002009-05-28T08:30:07.278-07:00-------------------------------
There is a quote f...-------------------------------<br />There is a quote from recent book of collected essays by C.S. Lewis called God in the Dock which is good to remember when we start to think that God is on trial. The following is from Anchor for the soul:<br /><br />“However, some people would rather think of themselves as being the judge of God. God is on trial. Listen to this brilliant quote by C.S. Lewis. <br /><br />The ancient man approached God...as the accused person approaches his judge. For the modern man the roles are reversed. He is the judge: God in the dock. He is quite a kindly judge: if God should have a reasonable defense for being the god who permits war, poverty, and disease, he is ready to listen to it. The trial may even end in God's acquittal. But the important thing is that man is on the bench and God is in the dock. <br /><br />Oh! How arrogant we can be! How could we think that we could be more loving than the God, who is love? How could we think that we could be more just than the very Being who defines justice? “<br />---------------------------------<br /><br />As C.S.Lewis says, "Oh! How arrogant we can be!"<br />********************************<br /><br />God has never been on trial...we are! <br />For God is the Creator, Sustainer,<br />and Redeemer. <br />The Gospel: that Jesus died for our sins and gave us life where we deserved hell, damnation, and death! Now THAT IS GOOD NEWS!<br />Let us spend more time praising and lifting up the blessed name of Jesus than showing(or trying to show) our great intelligence! <br /><br />God is not interested in our becoming a better adventist, but becoming His child!<br /><br />Bill Mead<br />john20.30.31@verizon.net<br />http://mysite.verizon.net/meadbd/index.htmlmeadbdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-58820942838762751602008-03-06T21:10:00.000-08:002008-03-06T21:10:00.000-08:00I am always enlightened by ccmments on many thread...I am always enlightened by ccmments on many threads. Pure intellectual delight! In "God on Trial," (2004) I attempted to unfold the biblical theme of the Great Controversy. The cover ticker is "The Cost of Freedom in the Great Controversy." In several articles and other books, I have tried to trace this controversy through the Bible, using only biblical texts. It seems to me the fundamental question is: What is God wanting to accomplish in His Plan of Salvation? We have many choices, such as Calvinism, Lutheranism, Pentecostalism, etc.--all of which are projecting contrary solutions to the sin problem. Why the conflicts? They all follow seminar theologians who have different concepts of the character of God. And those concepts are usually based on prevailing philosophical principles. I choose to use the God Jesus identified as the Waiting Father and Himself as our Healer-Saviour (same words in Greek), In so doing, the biblical texts present the Great Controversy story and thus explains why Jesus came the way He did and why He died. It seems very convincing to me, uniting my head and my heart as no other biblical picture has done. Of course, no one is at the same place as another at any given moment, but understanding the "controversy" in biblical terms, clears up what my daily decisions should be and what kind of promises I can expect God to graciously fulfill. Cheers, HerbHerb Douglasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08855339776117080433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10270506.post-59051120275276195672007-04-18T14:28:00.000-07:002007-04-18T14:28:00.000-07:00In a recent article posted at Lastgenerationtheolo...In a recent article posted at Lastgenerationtheology.org, Adventist Herb Douglass says this:<BR/><BR/>"Let’s remember that the ultimate purpose of the gospel is to prepare a people who can be trusted with eternal life..."<BR/><BR/>Later on he adds:<BR/><BR/>"It doesn’t take long in our studies to note that “Satan had claimed that it was impossible for man to obey God's commandments; and in our own strength it is true that we cannot obey them.… [But] when a soul receives Christ, he receives power to live the life of Christ.”11 And when that restored life becomes a forever habit pattern, “they have a right to join the blood-washed throng.”12<BR/><BR/>Men and women of faith will one day have the “right” (by the grace of God) to live forever! Potent words! Why? God can “trust” them! Why? “Character … decides destiny”13 and that has been the whole purpose of the gospel, of why Christ came to earth and died. Such men and women of faith help to place the universe “on an eternal basis of security.”14"<BR/><BR/>http://www.lastgenerationtheology.org/lgt/doc/3coo/dou-robe.php<BR/><BR/>The first statement claims that the ultimate purpose of the gospel is to prepare a people for eternal life. This claim is unsubstantiated by any Bible verse.<BR/><BR/>The second passage claims that Satan has argued that God's Ten Commandment Law cannot be kept, and that this claim is at the basis of Satan's opposition to God and the cause of the Great Controversy. But this passage likewise lacks direct Biblical support, relying instead on an EGW quote from Christ's Objects Lessons.<BR/><BR/>Now, it seems to me that both of these passages contain a certain logic to them. But as often as we've heard them as SDA's, they lack clear, convincing Biblical support. <BR/><BR/>And both of these statements are linked to the notion of God's being on trial before the universe and in which we are the test subjects. <BR/><BR/>GlennAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com